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Blood Slaughterer

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:46 pm
by Lord Krungharr
Can anyone conceive of a good reason to use the Impaler for a Blood Slaughterer? I can't but thought I would check others' opinions.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:59 pm
by Depayen
To me comes down to Soulgrinder and Plague Hulk. I want to say Plague Hulk but when you compare costs you have to go with Soulgrinder better bang for the points. This is just the opinion of one man.

To your other question, NO.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:51 am
by Redbeard
Unless you're running an Epidemius list, in which cast the Plaguehulk's Nurgle status puts it ahead.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:23 am
by Depayen
How so? I think I may know where you are going but not sure.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:22 pm
by Redbeard
Well, an Epidemius list counts the casualties caused by nurgle models. A soul grinder is not a nurgle unit, but a plague hulk is, so any kills the plague hulk scores add to the tally, and buff the rest of your army.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:34 pm
by Lord Krungharr
So with the Plaguehulk even my puny Nurglings could stand a much better chance of getting power weapon attacks that wound on a 2+ with Noxious Touch....AW YEEEEAH!!!

That makes a good case for Blight Drones too, which means I will have to make some.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:27 pm
by Depayen
Sorry, it took me a while to get back been busy with Family and work.

Ok Redbeard this is where I thought you were going with this. Here is my dilemma with what your saying or the reason for the confusion in my own interpretation of this. In the Tally of Pestilence it starts by saying follower of Nurgle then goes on in parentheses any Daemon of Nurgle or model with the Mark of Nurgle. The blight drone says it has Daemonic special rule and states a daemon engine but does not say anywhere it has the mark of Nurgle and is Classified as a vehicle (Fast Skimmer) not a daemon. Now for the Plague hulk it has Daemonic special rule but a different description then the Blight Drone and no where says its a daemon engine and is classified as a walker. Plus no where mentions it has the mark of Nurgle. So again nothing saying its a daemon. that is what lead me to believe there kills could not go toward the Tally. Believe me I want holes to get shoot in this theory. In discussions I have had with a few people I have not heard one that if took to tournment judge that he would go with it 100% of the time. As said before one mans opinion on his own dilemma of an interpretation.

Help a guy out.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:11 am
by Redbeard
Well, it's an apocalypse unit. It's FW rules only, so really, it's not going to be allowed at most tournaments anyway.

Common sense tells me that the Daemonic rule, plus being called "Plaguehulk of Nurgle" means that it's a nurgle daemon and counts for Epidemius.

If someone wants to play rules lawyer over this, and nitpick at minor wording variations (because we all know how good forgeworld is at getting things 100% right...), they're welcome to - I simply won't waste my time gaming with them. It's not worth the effort.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:16 pm
by Depayen
I understand what your saying the only time I see it coming into play would be the Gladiator at Adepticon.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:33 am
by Lord Krungharr
Tournaments are about the only reason I would be really really wondering about it.

Maybe we can get the AWC ppl to rule on that before next April. I wouldn't mind using my Scabiethrax again, in a more shooty Nurgle Daemon Gladiator army.

But most other players I have enjoyed playing against would agree that the Drone and Hulk are Nurgle models to count towards the the Tally of Pestilence.