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One last time for a Nurgle list

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:25 pm
by RAMSEY
After looking over the codex again and again I've come up with one last attempt at a fluffy but competative list. Take a look

Going for a 1850 list.

Lord- MoN, Bike, Black Mace, Gift of Mutation, Sigil of Corroption

Epidemus

Plaguebearers X5

Plague Marines- X7 Melta, Flamer, VoLW, PF, PP, Rhino w/EA
Plague Marines- X7 Melta, Flamer, VoLW, PF, PP, Rhino w/EA
Plague Marines- X8 Melta, Flamer, VoLW, PF, PP, Rhino w/EA

Cultist- X20 MoN

Oblits X2 MoN, VoLW
Oblits X2 MoN, VoLW

Heldrake

Total 1832

Eighteen points left over to push around.

Re: One last time for a Nurgle list

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:11 pm
by Generalissimo_Fred
Can Epidermus and the plaguebearers. Make the list CSM only. Add in 5 Spawn with the Mark of Nurgle for 180pts. Attach The Lord on Bike to them as a bodyguard. They move the same distance and pair up we'll. You still stay fluffy and you made it more competitive.

Re: One last time for a Nurgle list

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:12 am
by RAMSEY
What do you think about cutting out the Cultists all together and then add 4 Spawns with MoN? Stays fluffy, competetive and less units on the board that are not fearless.

Re: One last time for a Nurgle list

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:12 am
by YeezyMozart
Just take Typhus and assault your own Quad gun with him and a unit of cultists then use his special power to kill like 20 of them turn one there you have achieved your goal.

Re: One last time for a Nurgle list

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:14 am
by YeezyMozart
Generalissimo_Fred wrote:Can Epidermus and the plaguebearers. Make the list CSM only. Add in 5 Spawn with the Mark of Nurgle for 180pts. Attach The Lord on Bike to them as a bodyguard. They move the same distance and pair up we'll. You still stay fluffy and you made it more competitive.



Lord on a bike and Spawns is a bad idea the Lord can't run with the unit slowing it down. And the black mace is a waste of time and points.

Re: One last time for a Nurgle list

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:59 pm
by Lord Krungharr
Epidemius with Plaguebearers is a better scoring unit than Cultists, plus the Tally can buff everyone else up. So keep them, fairly cheap and effective. I'd say can the Heldrake, take Nurgle Bikers with plasma guns. Then when you assault with the Mace Lord, the Biker Champ can do the Challenges, plus they can shoot along the way.

Spawn do make great bodyguards but then there's the damn challenge issue. I haven't tried it yet, but running a unit of Bikers next to or behind the Spawn/Lord unit, then having the Lord switch units before assaulting would be a cool trick if pulled off effectively.

The Mace is definitely not a waste of points if you assault the right units with it. The Black Mace wounds on 2+ remember, then the Curse is usually at least as effective as Psychic Shriek to reap extra wounds which ignore (I think) any saves. In my testing it fares much better than a pair of Lightning Claws.

A Nurgle Lord is not slowed down by anything on a Bike. Nurgle Daemon Princes are Slow and Purposeful, not Nurgle Lords. So the Bike Lord and Spawn never roll difficult terrain, even when charging, although the Lord would have to take a Dangerous Terrain check if moving or assaulting through difficult terrain.

That Typhus trick is super-cheese, would any tournament actually permit such a masterful exploitation? That might be 230 points well spent......

Re: One last time for a Nurgle list

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:10 am
by RAMSEY
Lord Krungharr wrote:That Typhus trick is super-cheese, would any tournament actually permit such a masterful exploitation?


Lets just ask any of the new Necron players that take 3 flyers in a tournament. There are no cheesy list just cheesy people that take them.

Re: One last time for a Nurgle list

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:55 am
by Turtle
slow and purposeful doesn't cause you to move slower in this edition

Re: One last time for a Nurgle list

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:59 pm
by Lord Krungharr
Assaulting the Quad Gun purchased by the assaulting player just to detonate the player's own dudes is 1+1=2 levels cheesier than taking 3 flyers, however, still within the rules apparently. Spam is perhaps not cheese, but just boring, although potentially very effective. I think 3 Heldrakes wouldn't be bad, but probably not all that great either, and certainly not fluffy except in a Daemon Engine extravaganza.

Slow and Purposeful is real nice not having to roll difficult terrain all the time, but those models cannot Run, nor can they Overwatch. The latter is one reason I decided a Nurgle Daemon Prince with the Burning Brand of Skalathrax isn't all that super great.