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Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:54 am
by RichN
Warhammer Historical Has Now Closed
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Now what for Adepticon 2013? We still have our books & figures, and its not like GW paid any attention to WAB while the game was in production. On the other hand, its rather hard to bring in new players when the rule books are not available. Its possible a group of people will step to try and continue the game - we'll just have to wait and see.

We can certainly continue to run WAB events at Adepticon - but I expect there will be a lot of changes in the coming year.

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 10:52 am
by mikebutcher
Uh okay... Wow... So much for "love of the game". What a fluking buzz kill. I think we can still do the big game, but I don't know what rules to use at htis point, nor do I have a ton of time to investigate new ones. I personally would like somethign that plays like WAB. What I know of Hail Caeser is not so much to my liking, but admittingly I have not played a game.
I guess we should make a change prior to next year's adepticon so we can maybe grow this a bit (and pick up sponsors...:)).

Thoughts?

And I just dropped a ton of coin on a Perry English Agincourt Army. Grrrr...

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 11:07 am
by Lordgoober
You ever play Warmaster? HC is done by the same writer and really can be considered warmaster 3.0 in a lot of ways. That being said, I may be refocusing my EIR army that I was working towards WAB into a HC army.

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 11:21 am
by RichN
Don't panic Mike. I'm sure we can keep using WAB for the big games.

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 11:48 am
by mikebutcher
RichN wrote:Don't panic Mike. I'm sure we can keep using WAB for the big games.

and I'll bring a towel... :D

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:00 pm
by Nostromo
I saw this today too- and got to wondering what about next year.
My biggest dissapointment- as my Claymore Castings sets of Schiltrons and Border Archers arrived today!
is the fact that there was a Hundred Year War Supplement that had gone past editing and was up for release schedule.

I find it hard to believe that the Legends System is just dropped as well.....weird-
I see a possibility that ForgeWorld will pick it up and the WHH banner is just dropped- but that is a stretch I agree.

There are a couple more options...

Robb Broom, ex-WAB staff, just released War and Conquest, and from reviews it is WAB3- I find the cover art a real bad choice, which makes me question the author on other choices! but that is just me!

There is also GEG's Clash of Empires...

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:53 pm
by socalwarhammer
In light of the events at WHH, there are really 2 clear options. Either we go with Clash of Empires which is very close to WAB and contains only a few rules changes or we go with War and Conquest, which does have some significant differences, but plays close enough to WAB to keep us all happy. I actually just interviewed Rob Broom yesterday for the podcast and we talked about his game. Either one will be a good replacement for WAB. I will miss WAB, but we probably need to focus on a new rules set for Adepticon 2013. Either game system is equally desirable to me, so I will leave it all up to the group to decide. :D

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:50 pm
by Matt-J2
I haven't had a chance to play the other systems yet but I think for Doubles next year I'll follow whatever we run for singles. I'd accept input though if folks want to stay with WAB or run a different system than Singles.

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 10:15 pm
by Nostromo
My concern with these others systems is the lack of listsavailable

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:44 am
by socalwarhammer
In regards to which game system has the most army lists available, I think that would have to be Clash of Empires. With the Rise and Fall of Persia and Age of Ravens, it does seem to be going the right way. In addition, dozens or army lists from other time periods are available free online. :D

I have thought about it since yesterday and talked to a couple of guys in my regular WAB group. We will probably be making the shift to COE instead of some of the other systems out there. The consensus is that they all love WAB and COE is the closest thing to WAB, so they feel most comfortable going that way.

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:52 pm
by Matt-J2
I agree that CoE probably has the most lists right now, and I'm planning to pick it up since it's on sale until the end of June due to WHH closing down, but it's a valid point that it doesn't have as much as WAB. I think the most popular periods/armies do have lists in all 3 other rulesets, or will soon(Crusades for CoE is due out this year, for example) but I haven't looked very hard at any of them yet.

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:23 pm
by aergren
They only problem I have with going to different system is that I do not know of any other system that has list for my Teutonic knights or any other later medieval armies. Now I do have an ancient Greek army so I can do pretty much any game. I would vote however to come to some sort of agreement soon so that people can learn a new game and build new lists.

Abe

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:25 pm
by aergren
Well I am going to pull my foot out of my mouth because COE has a Teutonic army list.

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:36 pm
by Nostromo
No Hundred Years War lists!
No Goths and no Pagan Rus

So going to another system makes picking my army project easier...

My rus become Vikings or focus on late Rome...

Re: Warhammer Historical Closes

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:07 am
by netter
I have to agree that moving to another rules system is probably in order. I love WAB. However, without further support it has limited growth potential (and unlimited contraction potential). I don't even have AoA2 yet, so I can't even keep up on that front.

I have some issues with CoE but I can set those aside if it becomes the game to run with (and I own the rule book already).

I have only read and heard a bit about War and Conquest. I hate casting judgement on a system too early but I really, really don't know if I'd be interested in that for a tournament game. Hail Caesar, from what I've been told, is a great game for non-tournament play, but lacks sophisticated elements, like point values, to balance armies.

I can't believe they closed. How hard is it to keep up a web site and a small inventory of books, anyway? They could have run it with an intern or something.

John