Open Gaming: After Action Report

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Open Gaming: After Action Report

Postby RichN » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:34 pm

Adepticon 08 debuted a new gaming section - call it Open Gaming or Specialist Games – the group included everything that was not 40K or WFB. If I say so myself - open gaming was a smashing success.

• Over a dozen scheduled demo games for a variety of games were well received and well played. Each of the game tables attracted at least 2 players and some times many more.
• Six tournaments drew crowds large and small: Lord of the Rings 38, BFG 11, Combat patrol 16 and about half dozen or so for Epic, WAB and WAB doubles.
• Lord of the Rings ran a player organized Battle Company event with a dozen players.

The tables and terrain, build by Hank and the crew from down state, were the envy of the tournament and a real life saver when events were forced into the atrium. One bit of feed back – WAB players like 1 inch hills :) . Speaking of which – the atrium was a great place to play with good lighting and little noise. Demos are so much nicer when players and staff don’t have to shout over a neighboring tournament.

Next year should see nothing but growth for open gaming. Jamie is asking about putting on a second Lord of the Rings tournament. Blood Bowl already has a volunteer to run a tournament and Warmaster may shift from demo to tournament. WAB (Warhammer Historical) desperately needs a tournament lead that not only knows the game, but can help promote the events within the WAB community. Whoever may be heading up open gaming is going to have their hands full managing this success. Players may want to “vote early, vote often” for their favorite events come next fall. The Adepticon Council has done a great job of providing resources for new events, but at some point hard choices will need to be made about how the tables, prize support and man hours are allocated.
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Postby Matthias » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:44 pm

I was really glad to see the return of thematic/non-tournament gaming to AdeptiCon. I believe it is a very important aspect of the hobby overall (if not THE most important part) and will always have my support. Big thanks to Rich for spearheading this section of the convention, Hank and crew for building those brilliant tables and all that terrain, Jamie for taking the LotR tournament to the next level, everyone that came out to run and or play in the various events and demos and all the great sponsors that provided a ton of great prize support.

Dave...we painting tomorrow? My Stage Coach Regiment and Gunslinger Battalion arrived this afternoon.
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Postby Shawn-C-Carroll » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:50 pm

After talking to the guys running the AI demos, I want to run a AI tourney next year.
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Postby knitemare » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:59 pm

I definitely want in on the Blood Bowl tourny next year. Hopefully it wont be the same time as the LotR tourny.

It would be cool if there was an official battle companies tournament/campaign.
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Postby Drunken Mick » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:07 pm

Another LOTR tourney?? Woot! Jamie can correct me if I'm wrong but I think we scored a 20th team did we not? I don't recall a ringer being played.
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Postby BrentS » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:19 pm

I spent most of Saturday in the Atrium area and I found that a great place for the LOTR Demo and pick-up/ battle company games.

I would definitely be in favor of seeing that type of thing expanded even more!!
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Postby DavePauwels » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:40 pm

First, Matt- let's see about painting this weekend. Let me know if you're free at all. I primed up my Warmaster Ancients Legends of the Old West command stands of saloon owners and prospectors.

As far as the "atrium" games, which is what I'm gonna call them now, I think we have to look carefully at what events "succeeded" and why. And what other potential events would make for successful endeavors. I don't think necessarily just adding events is the answer, in my opinion.

There were really 20 teams for the LotR Team Tournament. There was a "ringer" army, played in part by myself, for two rounds but we had a 20th team take it over. Had they got in a little earlier, there would've been 20 teams officially.

I would love to see WAB grow and I know both Jamie and I (and I can convince Matt) would love to play next year. The problem really is spreading the word that the WAB tournament is worth attending. We need to have some more pictures of that excellent terrain circulated for sure.

So again, I think the atrium games did either as well or better than expected, but I think we need to take a long hard look and maybe consolidate and carefully decide what direction we take these next year. Matt and I joke about the Warmaster Legends of Necromunda, but in the end there is an underlying concern that if we try and make Adepticon "everything to everybody" you'll end up having 20 tournaments with 1-2 players in each. You get my drift?

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Postby CitizenNick » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:49 pm

I had a lot of fun playing the Chicago way demo. AI was awesome. And I can't tell you how much fun I had with first edition space hulk. Simply incredible.

I never got to do a LotR demo, but I wish I had. Maybe next year.
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Postby RichN » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:49 am

DavePauwels wrote:So again, I think the atrium games did either as well or better than expected, but I think we need to take a long hard look and maybe consolidate and carefully decide what direction we take these next year. Matt and I joke about the Warmaster Legends of Necromunda, but in the end there is an underlying concern that if we try and make Adepticon "everything to everybody" you'll end up having 20 tournaments with 1-2 players in each. You get my drift?


That's pretty much the point I was making. Tournaments take a lot of effort to set up - not only does the judge need to create the missions and paper work, but the council staff needs to provide prize support, registration, printing and about a dozen more details. While I think everyone had a great time with the smaller tournaments, I would also expect to see more than a round robin.

On the other hand, Adepticon has a history of growing little events into big events: WFB doubles started with 5 teams in 2004 this year doubles filled a ball room. Same with Lord of the Rings - in just one year the event grew from 7 teams to 19 (20) teams. What these two events have in common is that Marty and Jamie have worked very hard before and after Adepticon to build the events. What the Warmaster Legends of Necromunda events need is the same sort of effort and attention.
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Postby muwhe » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:42 am

Additional praise should go out to Tim and Ed. I heard nothing but great things from people that played in the Warhammer Historical Demos over the weekend. I think we had roughly 40 players play in various demos over the weekend. All great feedback.

WAB (Warhammer Historical) desperately needs a tournament lead that not only knows the game, but can help promote the events within the WAB community.


Well looking at the WAB event overall. We had 11 different players take part over 2 events. Much more established events across the country draw less or a bit more. From everything I heard .. everyone that played WAB had a great time. So while we didn't get the total number of players I had hoped. ( Which I take responsiblity for .. ) We did accomplish the most important task .. and that is very one that left was planning to play again next year and bring buddies. For me .. the play was relaxed, I had some great opponents and the games ran smoothly with little or no rules issues. So even though I was dead on my feet tired .. I had a blast. Reminder . never place your general in a 6-man companion wedge unless you like taking whole army moral checks when he bites it.


WAB players like 1 inch hills


Yep, on the agenda. The tables were made with the idea they could be used for all sorts of games. With 5th edition moving to true LOS, I made the call to make the hills out of 2" for LOS blocking purposes. Need to revisit and make some 1" options.
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Postby tjski » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:53 pm

Hey all

First a big thank you to everyone that either played or helped run a demo or event in the "Open Area".

I also like to thank whoever decided to keep us in the Atrium, it made it easy to run the Demos as well as run the WAB events in there. I also think it contributed to the layed back atmosphere that is WAB.

As Hank pointed out, this was the first time WAb made an apperance & if it wasn't for American Airlines we might have had a few more folks, but beyond that, every event needs to have a start & I think this was a great kick off of rthe event.

My only concearns about what I saw as a first timer was just getting the event organizer (me) a copy of names as to who would be playing. This was not a huge thing as it was a more relaxed event. Also the 1" hills was not a big deal as i found enough of them to be usefully during the Team Event.

Also as the outsider to Adepticon (First time there) if the WAB events run like we did this year, and keep it in a nice quite well lite area, we will have a larger turnout next year. Also since it was more low key out there, as well as, how do I say this, but less offensive to the nose, out there, than more Historical folks would come.

In a perfect world. I would like to see the Atrium as the Warhammer historical are that would cover all of there products. It was surprising to me how many folks didn't even know about this side of GW.

So enough from the Newbie, I look forward to going again and doing it all over again but with more folks! So if you guys will have me, I have no problem in stepping up and heading this area next year.

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Postby old coast » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:20 pm

Legend of the High Seas was definitely a hit, I know a half dozen people that interested in playing it..so maybe a small event next year is in order.

I am actually very into Ancients myself as well, and plan on picking up an army soon. whether or not I get painted in time for next year is another story. anyway the key to this kind of stuff succeeding IMO is to scheduling it away from the bigger events, Friday and Sunday obviously....hell Adepticon might want to think about going to 4 days....

Anyway Thanks to Rich, Tim and Ed...I had great time in the Atrium on Friday
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