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More CSM rumors and release dates

Postby Generalissimo_Fred » Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:12 am

These are all over the 40k blogosphere along with a September 8th release date for Chaos Space marines and an August 25th release date for the 6E starter set featuring dark Angels vs. CSM and the mini rulebook. With CSM being he first army with access to Flakk Missiles, how many counts as Space Wolves which turned into Counts as Blood Angels which turned into Grey Knights will become counts as Chaos Space marines?


–Special Characters–
Ahriman: Mastery Level 4, Same Stats as before, Access to Biomancy, Pryomancy, Telepathy, and Tzeentch. He is the master of witch ire spells, he can cast three spells that are witchfire in the same phase. He can also give up to three units infiltrate ability.

Huron: Same Stats as before, Mastery Level 1, Spells are randomly determined at the start of each turn.

Typhus: Same Stats as before, Mastery Level 2 can only take Nurgle powers, Destroyer Hive has been changed to be a Nurgle Holocaust Str4 AP2 ignores cover. Has Fear

Kharn: Same Stats as before, Him and his Unit get 2+ to deny witch and is completely immune to force weapons. Still attacks random people, but now a sneaky way around it. Always hits on 2+ in Assualt. Best part is he has Hatred that he can give to the rest of his unit.

Fabius Bile: Same Stats as before. Enhanced Warriors can only ever kill one model gives them Str and Fearless.

Lucius: Same Stats as before. His attacks are the same number as your opponent WS (Avatar vs Lucius fun times). Re-rolls all Wounds, Armor saves made by Lucius inflict str 4 ap2 hits back.

–Vehicles–

Dragon: 170pts AV 12/12/10 Can Vector Strike as a MC, Has Str 8 Heavy 4 guns

Shooty Demon Engine: 120pts AV 12/12/10 Two Str 8 Heavy 4 guns

Assault Demon Engine: 135pts AV 12/12/10, Immune to Cover, 12″ Move, Two Str 8 AP1 Melta Weapons, plus PowerFists

Hellbrute New CSM Dreadnaught: 105pts Crazed, BIG CHANGE no more DCW now just power fist will strike at I1

Chaos Land Raider: 220pts Only Godhammer variant, only holds 10 guys, still can get dozerblades

Upgrades: Mini Deff Roller Str 5 Ap – hits and double for failed death and glory, Chaos Lash whips but reduce attacks to 1

–Unique Items–

Demon Weapons: All Demon Weapons on a roll of 1 will attack user, but no longer will you lose the rest of your attacks.

Unique Chaos Power Axe: +2 str Ap2, Blinds Opponents, Gives Rage, Demon Weapon.

Unique Chaos Power Maul: AP4, Fleshbane, Demon Weapon, Any unsaved wounds causes instant death after toughness test is failed, in addition at the end of the assault phase any model with in 3″ must make another toughness test or take an AP1 wound.

Unique Chaos Power Sword: Ap3 Marked for Death, select any character get str x2 AP1 instant death when engaged with that character

Unique Chaos Flamer: Str 5 Ap3 Torrent, Soulblaze

Unique Icon: Once you kill a model the Icon unlocks and any model enemy model within 12″ must take Difficult and Dangerous Terrain tests and all friendly deep strikers
don’t scatter.

Unique Spell Book: Gain Random powers every turn can possible hurt you as well

–Wargear–

Attack Familiar: Two additional familiar attacks

Magic Familiar: Grants Random Spells

Chaos Iron Halo: 4+ invul can stack with MoT so that means 3+ invul

Flails: AP 2 Str 8 reduce WS of targets

–Units–

Chosen: 19pts each, Infiltrate gone

Terminators: 31pts each, Upgrades got very cheap FULLY kitted 10 man unit is about 400 pts with more versatility than another other Terminator unit in the game. Still has Combi-Spam.

Zerkers: 19pts each, Chainaxe Str 4 Ap 4

1k Sons: 23pts each, Champion Mastery Level 1

Plague Marines: 24pts each, Same as before now have Poison Assault Weapon

Noise Marines: 16pts each, Must still buy Sonic Weapons. Sonic Blaster 24″ inch Str 4 Ap5 Salvo, Ignores Cover, Blastmaster 25 pts assault 2 or heavy 1 blast same as before now with ignores cover, Doom Siren Same as before.

Assault Oblits: Elite Slot Weapons act like Ymgarl Genestealers powers

Possessed: Random Chart is now D3 acts like Ymgarl Genestealers powers, but determine at the beginning of the turn.

Havocs: 13pts each, 5-15pt drop for all special weapons from past edition, can buy Flak missiles

–Psychic Powers–

Tzeentch: 4 powers only. Prime Power Random Str blast that keeps on exploding random hits for every dead model, 1-2 Roll on Big Chart re-roll spawn result, 3-4 Bolt of
Tzeentch but how is a Beam, 5-6 Breath of Chaos

Abaddon is still one bad ass. His stats and cost remain the same. He will always be your Warlord. Drach’nyen: Demon Weapon, Specialist Weapon, +1 str ap2. Talon of Horus: x2 str, re-roll wounds, BA get hatred to Abaddon, Any friendly unit within 12″ of Abaddon gets Preferred Enemy. The biggest thing about Abaddon though is he makes CHOSEN TROOPS
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Re: More CSM rumors and release dates

Postby seahawk » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:44 am

Slight nerf to Abaddon; he only gets to use one weapon at a time now, instead of both :(.
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Re: More CSM rumors and release dates

Postby Generalissimo_Fred » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:57 am

It appears he will be either str 5 ap 2 with 4+d6 attacks in HtH or str 8 ap 3 with 4+d6 attacks on close combat. Also he has preferred enemy AND his weapon does not prevent him from attacking in combat if you roll a 1 anymore. I would say it is a slight increase overall, not including his ability to make Chosen troops. The Chosen don't infiltrate anymore, but they should still get 4-5 special weapons per squad if I am reading the rumor correctly.
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Re: More CSM rumors and release dates

Postby seahawk » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:02 am

I thought it was either:

- S5, AP2, 4+D6 attacks, or
- S8, AP3, 4 attacks, reroll to-wound

Unless the daemon weapon effect is "always on", whether you're using the weapon or not.

Still, +Preferred Enemy, +Chosen as Troops, +No more not attacking is pretty nice. We'll see what happens...

Hmm. If Chosen lost all veteran abilities, what's the difference between them and Havocs? More CC options? That's honestly pretty lame.
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Re: More CSM rumors and release dates

Postby rosco » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:04 am

i just want to have the darn book so we can finally stop wish-listing this stuff and hoping the rumors are right
good bad i'm the guy with the gun
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Re: More CSM rumors and release dates

Postby seahawk » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:16 pm

I'd "like" that post if I could ;)
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