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New to Epic Question

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:36 pm
by Mad Jack Deacon
So I've had about 5K of Epic SM stuff for years along with the E:A book.

I've futzed around with it here and there, but I've never played and I've never finished painting it up. Lately, I've been on a hobby kick and I busted it all back out along with a couple of other specialist games because I love the GRIMDARK, but I'm pretty damn "meh" about 40K and Fantasy right now.

So the question is this: When I'm putting together a detachment/formation, do upgrades add to the number of units or does it replace a stand? For example in a SM Tactical formation there are 6 stands of Space Marines. Would a commander make it 7, or would it replace one of the 6?

The reason this seems obtuse to me is that I'm pretty sure you don't remove one of the SM units stands if you pay the points for a Dreadnought upgrade, so why would you if you paid the points for a commander?

Additionally, if a commander stand is simply added to a unit formation, would it just tag along in one of the rhinos for the formation, or would it need one of its own?

I looked all through the E:A rulebook, but I thought it was woefully vague about how to structure/build the units. Maybe I'm just overthinking it.

Thanks in advance for the help!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:49 am
by Spectrar Ghost
Commanders are characters, and their abilities are added to an existing unit. Therefore, you would have a tactical formation of five Tactical Marines, one Tactical Marine with Commander, plus transport.

It's important to note that you may add Characters to any unit in the formation, not only the "core" units. Thus if you add the Dreadnought upgrade to the Tactical formation, you may add a Character upgrade to a Dread if you wish. Chaplain Dreads can be neat.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:51 am
by Shaggrudd Dethblasta
Looking to do a game in the near future?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:00 pm
by Mad Jack Deacon
Thanks for the response Spectrar! That definitely helps me grasp it a bit better.

As far as games go, I'm trying to get everything painted (or at least primed red) first, but that should happen shortly. I'm only a couple of blocks away from CLG so I can meet up there for an Epic tutorial or every now and again I trip out to the bunker in Downers Grove.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:18 pm
by angron888
I'm not to far from you, ( a couple of red line stops )and I am the BEST EPIC PLAYER EVER, so I could totally teach you some learning. PM me what days you are free and we can try to meet up at CLG